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You cannot legislate morality is the false claim of the immoral.

Sez Who?

We MUST legislate morality, as long as the legislature is representative of the people.  Otherwise, what is legislated reflects the whim of the dictator(s) of the moment.

Vic Biorseth, Monday, March 16, 2009
http://www.CatholicAmericanThinker.com

If the argument is true, then, should we legislate immorality?

In the absence of any fixed moral norms, how could you legislate civil law based upon a constantly variable moral relativism?  Daily, or weekly, or hourly re-legislation? 

Those who say we cannot legislate morality seek to avoid and oppose the morality of the majority, or destroy it. A common ethos is what makes a unique people, and this ethos-defined unique people-hood is what makes a nation. The guiding ethos of the American people is the Judeo-Christian Ethos of Western culture, developed through the long history of Western civilization.

The USA is, by population, fully eighty six percent Christian, eight to ten percent Jewish, and fully ninety eight percent of us openly profess belief in God. That is our make-up. We have, or are supposed to have, a fully representative government, and it serves us – we do not serve the government. We the people grant government the authority it needs to defend our shores, maintain our common currency, ensure domestic tranquility, legislate, adjudicate and execute our laws, and nothing more.

Our common guiding ethos is what sets us apart, makes us different, and makes of us a nation. An ethos may rightly be considered a collective conscience. The rightly formed conscience of the citizen properly raised in the religion of Christianity or Judaism reflects his morality, or his sense of right versus wrong. Morality is religion-based. Collective morality, or the morality of a tradition and a population, is, precisely, ethos. It is the sense of right-and-wrong by which we guide our lives.

Why would anyone with any common sense want any laws legislated that would oppose this obvious, clear and present common sense of right and wrong?

I submit that our common ethos – the Judeo-Christian Ethos - is the very foundation of all of our civil law. It has been the culturally instinctive basis for all Western Culture common law since even before Charlemagne.

To turn it around and legislate against the common ethos of the people is to reverse rolls, making the people the servant of government, and the government no longer representative of the will of the governed. It would mark a turn back toward ancient feudalism, where some citizen rights were recognized, and beyond feudalism, into barbarism, and beyond, into anarchy.

Take a long hard look at the political opposition to the Judeo-Christian Ethos, and you will most likely see Marxists of various spot and stripe. From the naïve, idealistic and super-simplistic useful idiots to the Keynesian economic interventionist useful idiots, on up to the potential future dictators, who are not idiots, but evil. Whatever else he may be, I do not believe that Obama is stupid. He knows full well what he is doing.

The last major historical personages of Western Culture who rejected and disavowed Christianity in the interest of Marxism were Lenin, Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini. To reject the religion at the root of Western Civilization is to begin the return to the barbarism that preceded it. Well, Lenin, Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini all turned away from Christ, all were disciples of Marx, and all returned major populations to savage barbarism.

Remember the three favorite pithy sayings of the typical Marxist bureaucrat on the upward march to power:

  1. The ends justify the means.
  2. You cannot make an omelet without breaking some eggs.
  3. Shut up and get on the cattle car.

Note well that one cannot disavow and damn Western Civilization as Marxism does without similarly disavowing and damning Christianity, which brought Western Civilization into being and remains at the roots of Western Culture, and at the roots of Western Culture Common Law.

Those who would not legislate morality would prefer to follow the “ethos” of BMDFP10 and Marxism. That is the “ethos” of the SLIMC1 , and the “ethos” that prevails in upper academia today. But it is not representative of the people. Yet.

Again, morality is religion based. Irreligion equals amorality.

Morality is exactly and precisely what should be legislated.

The notion that you cannot legislate morality is so stupid as to be suicidal.

Please God, and live forever.



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SLIMC1 Secularist Liberal Intellectual Media Complex
GESGOEAEOT2 Gradually, Ever So Gradually, Over Eons And Eons Of Time
PEWAG3 Punctuated Equilibrium's Wild Assed Guess
TTRSTF4 Them There Real Scientifical Type Fellers
TTRSPTF5 Them There Real Smart Perfesser Type Fellers
TTRSJTF6 Them There Real Smart Journalistical Type Fellers
SNRTACBT7 Surely No Right Thinking Adult Could Believe Today
STNSEACPB8 Surely Today No Serious, Educated Adult Could Possibly Believe
WDN9 We Don't Know
BMDFP10 Baboons, Mongrel Dogs, Filthy Pigs
HBAACOTE11 Human Beings Are A Cancer On The Earth
ACLU12 Anti-Christian Litigation Union
FLORMPORIF13 Flagrant Liar, Or, Mindless Parrot, Or, Innocent Fool
MEJTML14 Marxist Ends-Justify-The-Means Liar
IEJTML15 Islamic Ends-Justify-The-Means Liar
MPAV16 Marxist Principles And Values
WBESSWG17 Wise, Benign, Elite, Super-Scientific World Governance
TRMITM18 The Reason Man's In This Mess
IYI19 Intellectual Yet Idiotic

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Date:  Wed Nov 13 21:17:14 2013
From:  John
Email:   jbubs55@comcast.net
Location:  Wyoming, PA
Comment: 

Vic,

I think the American People-hood Pages is a great idea. And Vic, I hope you will forgive me for making one small critique. Although the word is "Judaism", I think that the correct spelling is "Judeo-Christian", not "Judao-Christian". I could be wrong, though. Perhaps both are correct. Anyway, I am off to read "You cannot legislate morality is the false claim of the immoral". God bless you, and keep fighting the Good Fight. Know, Brother that you do not stand alone.


Date:  Thu Nov 14 05:42:56 2013
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

John:

I think you are right, or mostly right.  Two other people have told me the same thing off-line, and all good English sources I look to seem to favor Judeo-Christian.  The problem is, it is a miss-spelling I have used all over this site, on too many pages to count.  It will take a special project, going through the whole site, page by page, line by line, to correct them all.  One of these days, when there is nothing in me to write and no pressing tasks to do, I will undertake that little project. 

Regards,

Vic


Date:  Wed Nov 13 21:54:35 2013
From:  John
Email:   jbubs55@comcast.net
Location:  Wyoming, PA
Comment: 

Vic, Excellent article. I seem to recall reading somewhere (perhaps it was Francis Schaeffer or C.S. Lewis) that morality can come from only three possible sources: Says God, Says Us, or Says Me. Says Me can result only in chaos, Says Us can result only in tyranny, while Says God can result only in giving fallen man a fighting chance.


Date:  Thu Nov 14 06:01:58 2013
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment: 

John:

Thank you again; and that is so true.  We are not going anywhere worth going without God. 

Regards,

Vic


Date:   Sun Oct 12 2014
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Changes pursuant to changing the website URL and name from 
Thinking Catholic Strategic Center to
Catholic American Thinker.

Pulled the trigger on the 301 MOVE IT option June 1, 2014. Working my way through all the webpages.  . 

Regards,

Vic


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