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Freemasonry Circa 1776, versus Now:  Is there a difference?

George Washington, Freemason

Did the "Illuminati" Corrupt Freemasonry, or was it always evil?

Vic Biorseth, Thursday, July 08, 2021
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We have described condemned freemasonry elsewhere herein and given the reasons. You cannot be a mason and be a Catholic at the same time. George Washington, the father of our country, was a baptized and practicing Anglican, and, a Freemason. We tend to overlook his association with freemasonry because of his heroism, thoroughgoing decency and humility.

Many in his position could have and might have made themselves King.

Who knows what would have become of us, as a new nation, if he would have chosen to run again after his second term, and not step aside and retire from the Presidency. 

If he had run, he would have won, and he knew it.  And he retired.

It was the first passing of the baton of American leadership. 

A new Renew America article by Cliff Kincaid titled Joint Chiefs Chairman Mark Milley is no George Washington sheds new light on the subject.

Apparently there was a difference between European and American versions of Freemasonry. The European variant was influenced by the 'Illuminati', and the American variant was not. 

Is that still true? 

I ask out of ignorance of the history of Freemasonry. All I know about it is that, today, it seeks to make its own rules, and it secretly conspires to evade all external rules and applicable justice in all areas of life, whether ecclesial or secular, and including economic and legal. 

It is a 'government' unto itself, placing its own governance above that of the nation. (See Condemned Freemasonry.) 

The question Cliff's article raises in my mind is whether that was true in George Washington's day, or not. It seems totally incompatible with Washington's absolute dedication and deep commitment to the new nation and its Constitution. 

Does anybody out there know any more about the history of Freemasonry, particularly circa 1776, than we know?


 



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Date:  Thu Jul 08 12:48:27 2021
From:  donna sherwood
Email:   dms578@yahoo.com
Location:  NY
Comment: 

if you are looking for someone to authoritatively discuss this topic try Gary Lachman former frontman of new wave group "blondie".  He is a highly accomplished and deep knowledgeable on subjects of esotericism and occultism having written many books easily viewed on amazon.  He had written a book on the russian mathematician PD Ouspensky who was a spiritual seeker and pupil of GI Gurdjieff during the early part of last century.  My husband was a pupil in his London group until O's death in '47 and then went to paris to Gurdijieff.  I was enormously impressed with the historical narrative Lachman wrote but entirely disagreed with his overall conclusions about Mr. Ouspensky which were specious.  He is a good source on freemasonry.  You can also try Mark Dice who has written two books on topics of Freemasonry and the Illuminati.  He is likely more easily accessed.  If you wish to discuss please just respond and we can trade phone numbers.


Date:  Thu Jul 08 14:24:30 2021
From:  Linda Kimball
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The major difference between American and European Masonry is that the former version was not pagan in orientation but Christian.    Underlying European Masonry was hatred of the Christian God (Christ Jesus) pagan materialism, animism, and other ancient pagan creeds dating back to Babylon.    


Date:  Thu Jul 08 2021
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Linda:

And is that still true today?

Regards,

Vic


Date:  Thu Jul 08 15:06:29 2021
From:  Linda
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No, it's no longer true.  At some time after the founding the European version came into this land, bringing with it pagan elements clothed in 'scientific,' ideological, philosophical, and even Christian clothes.   


Date:  Thu Jul 08 2021
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Linda:

Thank you; this reaffirms and strengthens my reverence of the memory of George Washington and others among the fathers of the USA who were Masons. 

Regards,

Vic


Date:  Thu Jul 08 22:56:10 2021
From:  Lois Grebosky
Email:   lois@bcs-support.com
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Comment: 

Please check out Church Militant FBI series on Freemasonry.


Date:  Fri Jul 09 2021
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Lois:

Thank you. 

Regards,

Vic


Date:  Fri Jul 09 14:15:09 2021
From:  EWR
Email:   ramlow_1@charter.net
Location:  America
Comment: 

A very informative historical book available is called "Behind the Lodge Door" author Paul A. Fisher.


Date:  Wed Jul 14 22:10:00 2021
From:  Al McDonald
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E. Michael Jones - The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit covers this at length.  Fabulous perspective regarding our spiritual history.


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