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A submission from Brother Michael, who would be Pope.

If all the last five or so Popes have been invalid Popes, then, where's the valid one?  Why, it's Brother Michael, of course!

Brother Michael, Monday, November 23, 2015
https://www.catholicamericanthinker.com/

Why are some of the post Vatican II Popes referred to as great or holy on your website when they have  actually contributed to the destruction of the faith?

Anti-Catholic Video 1

Anti-Catholic Video 2

Anti-Catholic Video 3

Anti-Catholic Video 4

Anti-Catholic Video 5

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Response:  Vic Biorseth, Tuesday, November 24, 2015
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Your use of the term "antipope" here is revealing.  In normal usage, it denotes someone making a competing claim to be the Pope, but who is not the legitimately seated Pope.  If, for instance, John Paul the Great was an antipope, then, who, exactly, was the real seated Pope during John Paul's reign?  He was the only one elected by the enclave; was there some other secret election somewhere that the rest of the world never heard of? 

And if he was a single but false Pope, or an apostate, and the Church herself had fallen into apostasy and was no longer the valid Church Christ founded, then, you make a liar of Jesus Christ, Who promised that the very gates of hell would not prevail against it, and that He would be with it until the end of the age. 

You make the same error as Luther, Zwingli, Calvin, etc., etc., etc., who declared themselves to be the head of the "real" or the "reformed" Church, while the Church Christ founded upon Peter went on about it's business.  By what Gnostic-like secret knowledge to you claim to form your new denomination, expecting the whole world of Catholicism to abandon Peter and join your invented sect? 

Your evidences are a bit lame.  Using pedantic interpretations and semantic tricks, you put words into mouths that never uttered them.  No matter how carefully you cherry pick your quotes and carefully parse them for your purposes, the end result is false.  John Paul the Great never said that everyone is saved, nor did he ever say that no one is damned, and you know it. 

Peter was not perfect.  The Apostles were not perfect.  Far from it.  The Catholic Church is not perfect; it never was.  No Pope was ever perfect.  Some were evil; but none ever taught error in faith or morals as an official doctrinal teaching of the Church.  Nit-pick all the imperfections you choose, oppose the Chair with all your might; the Church will still stand. 

Note that "Gates" are a defensive weapon.  When Christ said that the gates of hell would not prevail, that was an indication of the Church going on offense.  The Church will batter down those doors, setting captives free.  But not those who would not be freed. 

The dog who always barks up the wrong tree may be the most amusing one, but he is not the dog the hunter most profitably follows. 

Regards,

Vic



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Date:  Wed Nov 25 03:45:43 2015
From:  John Lincolnshire
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You are very intellectually dishonest. Brother Michael never referred to the apostate antipopes as “popes” but you edited his statement to say “popes.” You also misrepresent the Benedictine Monk by saying that he believes the last 5 Popes are invalid when he in fact accepts them: Pope Gregory XVII (Cardinal Siri), Pope Pius XII, Pope Pius XI, Pope Benedict XV, and Pope St. Pius X. Moreover the word ‘antipope’ is defined by the Catholic Encyclopedia as a false claimant to the Papacy. There were periods during the Great Western Schism when the reigning antipope would be unopposed since the Pope had died and his comrades were in the process of facilitating the next election. Would an antipope be turned into the Pope during this period in which he had no opposition? No. Well neither can the apostate antipopes gain any legitimacy just because they are unopposed and physically control and occupy the physical structures that belonged to the Church.  Apostate Antipope John Paul 2 was the AntiChrist and you are enamored by him to your own doom. There is no pope. The Novus Ordo false religion does not have the power to appoint popes, since it is a Protestant denomination expressly lacking legitimate Mission, Apostolic Succession, the Sacraments, authenticity, etc. Only the Catholic Church can do that.

The Novus Ordo sect is not the Catholic Church. The apostate anti-popes never assumed any office in the Church. The Novus Ordo sect teaches that there are heretics and schismatics in the 'church.'It also repeatedly praises Luther, Calvin, and Zwingli. You are just like them since you reject the Papacy and follow the Protestant denomination that most exemplifies this, the Novus Ordo false religion. Your sect taught in the apostate Vatican 2 synod in Lumen Gentium #16 that the Moslems worship the one true God. The apostate synod also teaches it is in union with those who expressly reject St. Peter and his successors. You are not the Catholic Church but the prophesied Whore of Babylon foretold to overtake the city of Rome in the last days.


Date:  Wed Nov 25 2015
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  


John Lincolnshire:

Yeah, yeah.  Right, right.  I should have known, from the very first video, that all of this was nothing more than the silly blather of dissidents, schismatics and non-Catholics. 

Regards,

Vic


Date:  Thu Nov 26 2015
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

The links in Brother Michael's submission have been disconnected, because I don't want heretical links on my website.  John Lincolnshire's submissions are hereafter blocked, because they are just the anti-Catholic rantings of committed and perhaps demented hater of the Church Christ founded. 

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. 

Regards,

Vic


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