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Vic Biorseth, OWM; Friday,
August 08, 2014
It was an interesting conversation. If you have been merely worried about the damage being done to the world by Comrade President Obama (peace be upon him), look beyond American shores and you may see why I'm more worried than you are. The interview was conducted by Cliff Kincaid and Jerry Kenny of http://americasurvival.org/ and http://religiousleftexposed.com/home/.
When the Vicar of Christ is a Marxist. Here is the stored version (click the image) of the TV interview. It lasts about 45 minutes. It started Wednesday at 9:00 PM, which is past my normal bed time. And yes, the current Vicar of Christ is a Marxist.
Things I wish I had said. Time constraints and mitigating factors being as they always are, there are always other thoughts that come to mind after a good thought-provoking conversation necessarily ends. For instance ...
Both Marxism and Islam have global ambitions, involving civil government, political power and ruler-ship of the physical world.
The "worldly" argument regarding how man is to organize his societies then becomes one involving political power and who is to hold it. This is where human "goodness" comes into play, and the recognition of good versus evil, and right versus wrong, decent versus indecent. And that is a matter of divorcing our human behavior from the temptations of the world, for the sake of the Kingdom.
The unique American political ideology is summed up in the loyalty oath contained in the oath of office sworn by all elected American federal political office holders, all appointed high office holders and all members of the American armed forces. The loyalty oath is not directed at any man, any class, any nobility, any crown, any government, any Party or even any nation. It is directed at the law. They solemnly swear to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. We are a nation of laws, and the Constitution is the supreme law.
The American idea for governance involves not concentrating political power, but spreading it among the people. That's the reason that Americans are so proud (or used to be) of being Americans, that Europeans and others are always so confused about. We are sovereign citizens; they are not.
So the final argument is between the original and ongoing American Revolution, the original and ongoing Marxist Revolution, and the original and ongoing Islamic Revolution. These three major ideologies are the ones in play in virtually every geopolitical situation in the news today.
The dichotomy that I wrestle with involves determining whether this Pope, a couple of other Popes, and lots of Bishops and Priests, are "Useful Idiots" who have been indoctrinated, propagandized and duped, or, if they are acting with full evil intent, in on the game, with full knowledge that the ultimate goal is the attainment of global political power.
That is something I cannot know.
Watch the interview and let me know what you think.
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Date: Fri Aug 08 09:33:20 2014
Location: Overland Park, KS USA
You should be very careful about the way you phrase your criticisms of the Pope, however valid your criticisms may be. I refer specifically to your use of the phrase, "useful idiot" in reference to him. Out of reverence at least for the Office the Pope holds, if not out of respect for the actual occupant of that Office, you should avoid using disparaging language like that. Simply stated, if one is going to criticize a Pope, he should avoid doing so on a purely personal level.
Having pointed this out, I have written on Facebook posts in at least two of my Catholic groups there that if there's one problem I can see with Pope Francis, it's that he seems to be a bit too nuanced in his actions and especially in his public comments. So far in his Pontificate, he has exhibited an unhappy tendency to make statements that are ambiguous and which can be--and all too often are--misconstrued by a general worldwide populace that has by and large lost any ability to think critically and twisted by a virulently anti-Catholic international secularist media who are only too happy to report on His Holiness' remarks in such a way that they can be cast in the least favorable light from a purely Catholic point of view. The media have been doing this for decades. We saw it with His Holiness Pope Benedict in his remarks about condoms. I'm sure you remember it. He made an offhand remark about relative evil and condoms, and the media suddenly ran with a bogus story that the Roman Catholic Church was now going to approve the use of condoms; when in reality, nothing could have been further from the truth or what Pope Benedict had actually said.
Bottom line: Nuance is not a desirable trait in a Pope. Nuance may make a person "interesting" or "fascinating" and get his picture on the cover of "People" Magazine. But what we don't want or need a Pope who's "interesting" or "fascinating". We need a Pope who will be a beacon of truth and a voice of moral clarity in an insane and depraved world which sorely needs a beacon of truth and a voice of moral clarity.
I pray for His Holiness Pope Francis every day, as every good and loyal Catholic is morally bound to do. I especially pray that, as his Pontificate progresses, he will attain a better understanding of the solemn responsibilities of his Office and who the enemies of Holy Mother Church--and his enemies--really are. He may actually have that understanding now, but I have to admit that it's extremely hard to see that sometimes.
Date: Fri Aug 08 2014
From: Vic Biorseth
"Useful Idiot" is a very old and heavily used term, attributed to both Lenin and Stalin, for the convinced believers in Marx's Communist Utopia. They were always useful to the Marxist deceivers because they furthered the cause of centralizing power for the dictators; but they were dupes; they were being duped. It's a common term, and that's how I used it. If the Pope is a Marxist, and his Evangelium Gaudium definitely indicates that he is, then would you prefer that he be of the Useful Idiot variety, or of the evil, deceptive, Machiavellian schemer variety, such as Lenin, Stalin and Hitler? They fooled the people out of their liberty and into being ruled by them.
(Psst! There ain't no earthly utopia! Shhh!)
See the Evangelizing for World Communism page.
I have said a blue million times in this site that most Communists don't know that they are Communists. That's just the way it is. America, and apparently, the Church, is loaded down with Useful Idiots. The whole Democrat Party and the whole of the mainstream media are obviously guided by the pillars of Communism listed in the Manifesto, but in all likelihood very few of them are really aware of what the game is about. It would be a good bet that they never even read it. But they accept it, unread.
These things have to be talked about. They have to be at least recognized and understood for what they are. I intend to light them up.
I have been pilloried for recommending that we Outlaw Marxism in America, because Marxism opposes the Constitution in all its important points, and in every citizen right stated, and even in its purpose for being. Here are Marx's words, from his manifesto:
Don't look now, but "all existing social conditions" includes not only America, but the Catholic Church. And all other religions. And all other institutions.
I have been pilloried for recommending that we Outlaw Islam in America, because Islam opposes the Constitution in all its important points, and in every citizen right stated, and even in its purpose for being. Here are Mohammed's words, from his Koran:
Don't look now, but that is a declaration of war against not only America, but the Catholic Church. And all other religions. And all other institutions.
Comrade President Obama, peace be upon him, has amply demonstrated that he favors Marxism over the Constitution, and that he favors Islam over the Constitution, despite having sworn the loyalty oath in his oath of office. We are now seeing what happens when such a person is elected to high office in America.
In the absence of a strong and willing America, who will stop the advance of a new Marxist army in Europe, or anywhere, including the Vatican? Who will stop the advance of Islamic Jihad, anywhere at all?
When you see Sunni Moslems advancing under the black war flag of Islam, you will come to know that the enemy they are targeting is you, personally, whoever you are, unless you are a Sunni Moslem.
When you see Shia Moslems advancing under the black war flag of Islam, you will come to know that the enemy they are targeting is you, personally, whoever you are, unless you are a Shia Moslem.
They are identical; they read the same Koran and follow the exact same rules. The only difference between them is who should have been the next Caliph after the death of Mohammed, who was the first Caliph. And also the first, and most brutal, anti-Semite. He declared war on all the rest of the world 1,400 years ago. The war has been on and off ever since. It is now coming back on.
Comrade President Obama can go either way, depending on which way the ball bounces in a destroyed America. He can be a Marxist dictator, or, he can get out a prayer rug and pray with his butt up in the air and pretend to be a good Moslem.
I have to wonder how Pope Francis would fare. I pray for the Pope too. And I pray that he might come around and stop helping the sworn mortal enemies of the Church, knowingly or otherwise.
Date: Sat Aug 09 2014
From: Vic Biorseth
To multiple "anonymous" contacts:
I am not going to get into a bunch of private dialogues again. We can discuss it out in the open, or not at all. What I say, I say in public, and in all company.
For what I said in the interview about Pope Paul VI, see Why did Vatican II ignore Communism?
For what I said in the interview about Pope Francis, see Evangelizing for World Communism.
For what I said about American Catholic Bishops, see Catholic American Treason, among a blue million other pages.
Look at the first set of links in the right hand column of this page for a whole lot more on the subject. I said nothing new. I've been saying this stuff for a long time.
If you truly love the Truth, then why do you hold your tongues?
Date: Mon Aug 11 10:23:47 2014
Location: Overland Park, KS USA
For the record, I wasn't disagreeing with anything you said in your piece. (In the brief time that I've been a subscriber to your Newsletter, I have rarely, if ever, found anything in your work that I COULD disagree with. That's the principal reason that I became a subscriber.)
I was merely pointing out that the reverence we as Catholics should have for the Papal Office (and not merely respect for the man who occupies that Office) demands that we use more polite language than "useful idiot" when criticizing the Pope. If you had said that the Pope was grossly misinformed about the true nature of Marxism, I wouldn't have had any issue at all with your commentary.
I guess you might say it's a matter of semantics.
And I believe (or would LIKE to believe, anyway) that misinformation is actually the case here, as opposed to Pope Francis actually being the scheming, Machiavellian type of Marxist. Given what we know about Pope Francis' formation as a priest (South American Jesuit ordained in the late 1960s), lack of proper information, I believe, is the most plausible explanation. He undoubtedly received too strong a dose of "liberation theology" when he was in the seminary.
I must confess that I haven't read Evangelium Gaudium in any depth. (I had a synopsis and a critique of it from another Web site bookmarked on an Internet profile on a computer that has since gone belly-up.) I should definitely read it, and specifically, I'd like to see how it squares--or doesn't--with previous Papal encyclicals on economic issues; primarily those of Leo XIII and Pius XI.
In any case, I hope you accepted my criticism in the constructive spirit in which I offered it. Thank you, Vic. And may God reward you for the work you're doing.
Date: Mon Aug 11 2014
From: Vic Biorseth
Thank you; so far you're the only one to agree with me publicly. Others whisper their agreement, and then make their goal the next foxhole.
The problem with my use of black-and-white language differentiating the two kinds of Marxists is that most people have yet to recognize the simple fact that there are two and only two varieties of Marxists: those who are being duped, and those who are doing the duping.
I would hazard a guess that today, thanks to government indoctrination (I mean education) and and government propagandizing (I mean news reporting and commentary) 90% or more of the world's adult population do not know that.
Most people think of Marx as a multifaceted intellectual thinker - a philosopher, an economist, a great social planner, etc. But he was none of those things. He wrote no great social treatise; what he wrote was the Communist Manifesto. He was no great philosopher; what he was was a dark, brooding bloody revolutionary. Marxism, in whole and in all its many sub-parts, is and was from the beginning an implacable mortal enemy of the Catholic Church, of America, and of every other social institution on Earth. The only other social institutions it temporarily cooperates with are "Useful Idiot" institutions merely of temporary usefulness to the greater cause of the Marxist revolution. (The Russian Orthodox Church; the UN; various factions from within Islam; organized labor; etc.)
I cannot mince words about that. People need to know. Any Marxist is either a diabolically clever plotter, or a dupe, pure and simple. And that goes for clerics, including Popes.
Again, we are not talking about anything from within the Sacred Deposit of Faith, which was closed with the death of the last original Apostle. We are talking about Marxist world revolution, and the sub-topics of Marxist collectivism, redistributionism, the elimination of private property, planned and controlled economies, the end of sovereignty and sovereign nations, etc. The end of hunger. A worker's paradise. Man made heaven, or Utopia. Perfected worldliness.
I'm sorry, Jim, but that's just stupid. It's so dumb it's unworthy of serious intellectual consideration.
When the Holy Father speaks on doctrine, which is to say, on matters from within the Depositum Fide, I rise to my feet an listen with my very soul, for he does not speak alone. The Holy Ghost protects him from error.
But when he speaks of the glories of Communism, born in 1848, I sit back down and take careful notes. The dichotomy in this is how Communism hates and intends to destroy Catholicism, and yet we have high ranking Catholic clerics who have a soft spot for Communism.
Kind of reminds me of ranking American politicians. It's the same situation.
It you haven't read it yet, here's Evangelii Gaudium:
There's a lot of good stuff in there, other than the Marxism.
PS: Jim, look up Pope Alexander VI, for an example of perhaps the worst of several "bad" Popes. Infallible does not mean impeccable. No Pope ever taught erroneous Catholic doctrine, including the worst of them. That does not mean that they were all perfect, or that they all necessarily made it to Heaven. A Pope can be scandalous, a scoundrel, a criminal or even a fool, and still be protected from doctrinal error in accordance with the promise of Christ. See the Infallibility page. Whatever else he may be, Pope Francis is still the Vicar of Christ.
Date: Fri Oct 17 11:45:54 2014
From: Andrew Maggard
Location: Port Haywood, Virginia,
Thank you for having the courage as well as the insight to call it as you see it. A recent article of yours involving this administration and the Ebola Virus prompts a similar recognition. No, I don't think you are crazy at all, you are voicing exactly what many currently have come to believe. Unfolding events could well verify that belief.
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Will Pope Francis become a Self Deposing Pope? "The pope himself, if notoriously guilty of heresy, would cease to be pope because he would cease to be a member of the Church."--Catholic Encyclopedia
Red Pope Francis and the KGB's Liberation Theology. The Russian KGB developed "Liberation Theology" as another path to Global Revolution. Pope Francis may be a victim of it, or, he may be a perpetrator of it.
Vatican War: Are we witnessing a Papal Melt Down? Pope Francis and the "Spirit Of Vatican II" Cardinals now openly attacking Orthodox Cardinals in the now open-to-public-view Vatican War.
On the Question of Papal Deposability. Asking whether Bishops may actually Depose a Pope for Heresy. Is there even such a thing as Papal Deposability?
Dubiosity (my word) in Francis' Papacy: The Five Dubia. Pope Francis feeds Papal Dubiosity through indecisiveness, vague language and official pronouncements left open to wildly varying interpretation.
Pope Francis and the deepening and worsening Catholic Civil War. Letter asking Pope Francis to step down: Can we really do that? Has it been done before? And is Pope Francis even Catholic?
There is No Hell, because Pope Francis said so. Right? "No one can be condemned for ever, because that is not the logic of the Gospel!" --Pope Francis
Popephobia: A Catholic Mental Disorder. (I think I have it.) Popephobia is related to American Obamaphobia, and German Merkelphobia. They are all closely related social disorders. (Could they be a Social WMD?)
The Blind Guides leading Western Civilization toward the pit of Human Barbarity. "Establishment" Party Members and "Establishment" USCCB Bishops are not all Evil Traitors; most of them are Deceived Blind Guides.
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Loosey-Goosey Theology, Wishy-Washy Leadership, and Anything Goes Culture. Pope Francis' Exhortation, Obamunist Cultural Diversity, LGBTQP+ "Sophisticated" Social Engineering, and "Whatever" Global Culture.
Why Did Vatican II Ignore Communism? The veil of mystery over the Council’s omitting any reference to Communism has gradually been lifted
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The Smoke of Satan is in the Church in America; has it reached the Vatican too? The Smoke of Satan conceals the true object of the Progressive Agenda.
On the "inevitability" of a Perfect Global Government in a "New World Order". Is this "New World Order" idea divinely inspired, or is it the ongoing work of Satan?
Pope Francis, Evangelii Gaudium, and Evangelizing for World Communism. Evangelii Gaudium started out on Catholic Evangelism, but ended up Evangelizing World Communism.
The Treacherous Global Delusions of Marxism-Leninism. Is Pope Francis a duped "Useful Idiot" of Marxism, is he Delusional, or is he actually In On It?
Musings on the deep treachery of the most trusted among us. Deep Treachery: Were they all deceiving us from the beginning, or did they somehow "turn" after being raised to positions of trust?
Crony-Catholicism? Really? The USCCB is advancing Obamunism? Say it ain't so, Joe! It's bad enough that we now have so many Marxified Bishops, but now they actually act against the faith?
Cliff Kincaid interviewed Vic on TV about Pope Francis and his Marxism. Addressing Marxist and Islamic ideology creeping into Catholicism.
If Francis is a Communist Pope, how does that affect Catholic Faith and Morals? Exploring the links between Comrade Obama (peace be upon him), Pope Francis and Communist Cuba.
Roman Catholic Marxism? Excuse me? Who is evangelizing whom? Roman Catholic Marxism explores the Politics of Private property v. Collective property (i.e., Marxist Redistributionism.)
On the Vague Anti Authoritarianism of Pope Francis And the Relationship between Vague Anti Authoritarianism in High Places and Moral Depravity in Culture
Do we have an anti-American Pope? A Pro-Obama, Anti-Capitalist, Redistributionist, Utopian, Pro-Illegal Alien, quite consistently Anti-American, Pope Francis?
Delusional Pope Francis, molding world culture into one undefinable hodgepodge. Does the Pope want International Communism, or just a border-less, all inclusive, nonsensical, global non-culture?
The Religion Politics Nexus: If the Religion is not true, Politics become evil. For Martin Luther, Politics drove Religion. For Pope Francis, Religion drives Politics. Or does it?
Pope Francis just said WHAT? Excuse me? Can anyone out there help me reconcile what Pope Francis just said with Catholic Revealed Truth?
Marxists running the Vatican's Pontifical Academy of Social Science? Died in the wool Marxists in the Vatican's P.A.S.S. No wonder Pope Francis favors the Socializing Frauds of "Sustainable Development", "Climate Change", etc.
Disorder and Confusion from the White House. And from the Vatican, too? The growing disorder in Obama's America, and in Pope Francis' Catholic Church.
Pope Francis receives an Open Letter calling for his Papal Resignation. "Year of Mercy" begins with an Open Letter: An Urgent Appeal to Pope Francis to Either Change Course or Renounce the Petrine Office.
Globalist Pope Francis' Marxist Program to End All Sovereign Nations. Our Globalist Pope leads the attack on all National Sovereignty to bring an end to all national borders in favor of Total Global Disorder, ostensibly for the good of the Planet and the Poor.
Looking more closely at Pope Francis' chosen Papal Pals. If a critter walks like a duck, talks like a duck and is constantly seen in the company of other ducks, the logical conclusion is that he most probably is a duck.
Globalist Stupidassism in the Vatican. Globalist Fraud after Hoax after Scam, all promoted in the Pontifical Academy of Science and the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences "Workshop on Biological Extinction."
On the new (to me) heresy of Popalitry. False belief that a Pope can do no wrong leads to Pope Worship.
Do we have a Diabolically Controlled Pope? Every time he opens his mouth, he makes himself a fool.
The Dubia Aftermath shows that Pope Francis still doesn't get it. Non-response to the Dubia means a Warning; non-response to that means a second Warning, and finally, a non-Pope Council to depose the Pope.
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