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Radiocarbon Dating

Vic Biorseth, http://www.CatholicAmericanThinker.com

Radiocarbon dating is the most reliable and widely used process of absolute dating of Earthly organic material - from things that once lived - but it has some severe limitations. As the decay rate for each radioactive isotope is known, it is possible to calculate how long the process has been taking place for a given specimen under examination.

Nitrogen atoms in the upper atmosphere are bombarded by neutrons produced by cosmic radiation resulting in radioactive carbon (C14) that becomes incorporated into atmospheric carbon dioxide. While animals inhale and utilize oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide, plants inhale and utilize carbon dioxide and exhale oxygen. So, the now C14-incorporated carbon dioxide is breathed and absorbed into all carbon dioxide breathing plants, and then the plants are eaten by animals, and the C14 passes into animal tissues. Even carnivores that eat only animal tissue absorb C14 from that animal tissue.

When the plant or animal dies no further isotope is absorbed and the beta radiation emission begins to gradually reduce to half strength, after the “half-life” of the isotope; 5,730 years in the case of C14.

Fortunately organic carbon is a constituent of all living material, and wood, bone, charcoal, peat, horn, and vegetable remains in soil can all be examined with sensitive Geiger counters, allowing for calculation of absolute age. This makes radiocarbon dating quite useful, up to a point. Error factors, plus or minus, involve hundreds of years.

But the diminution of the radioactivity limits the method to about 40,000 years without the use of "special techniques,” which radically increase the potential error factor, and above 70,000 years the amount of radioactivity is too small to register, let alone measure.

Very old carbon such as found in coal deposits is radioactively dead and useless for carbon dating. Coal is long past its own half-life. So very old things may not be measured at all, and younger things may not be measured with precision. Aging anything on Earth in the hundreds of thousands of years, or in the millions or beyond, involves little more than educated conjecture.

Another word for conjecture is a guess. A Guess never rises above the level of being a guess, no matter how scientific, no matter how educated, no matter how much consensus it enjoys, no matter how well it "fits" any popular hypothesis. Even with full, 100% consensus in the scientific community, in the absence of any empirical evidence, conjecture still remains conjecture. We cannot know with any certainty the age of most of the geological strata that is available to man for viewing.

I would still, however tentatively, tend to agree with a given, millions-of-years-old, Earth strata-age that enjoys near unanimous scientific support. Why? Because I can't come up with a better scientific guess than they can, and it's their field, not mine. The real problem in this situation lies in trying to determine if the proponents of the given strata-age are real scientists, or merely disciples of the faith of Scientism, play-acting at being real scientists. The only way to do that is to listen very carefully to their words, and how they state their case.

When you hear a TV scientist on PBS, or on the History Channel, or on the Discovery Channel, or a teacher in a classroom, saying things like, today, we can accurately measure the age of earthly strata, you should know that what you are listening to is clear falsehood. It might have started out as more of a little fib than a flagrant lie, but over time it has taken on the respectable aura of clear and overwhelming consensus among the educated elite, world wide. It has the near unanimous support of all of the fellows of TTRSTF4 , who will harrumph about it and support what, when pressed, they will refer to as conjecture, because the term conjecture sounds so much more scientific than the term very popular wild assed guess. In general, if a proposed conjecture regarding the age of a rock or a radioactively-dead fossil or a strata layer supports a given scientistic dogma, then that conjecture will enjoy immediate, unchallenged, and near unanimous support from the recognized scientific community.

This, alone, should tell us something very important about today’s recognized scientific community.

Nevertheless, there is such a thing as a real scientist, and real science is still being done. It is most usually done very quietly.

Note well that, when modern scientists speak of cosmic distances between celestial objects, and the velocities at which such objects are moving toward or away from us, they stand on much firmer empirical evidences for their statements than when they are speaking of the age of an ancient bone fragment or fossilized leaf. But such things as the physical optics, color-phase or wave-length of light waves emitted by the observed objects, while they may be quite accurate, have nothing to do with aging earthly material.



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Smart-Assed Acronym Hover-Link Footnotes: For the convenience of those readers using devises that lack a mouse, these footnotes are provided for all webpages, in case any webpage contains any hover-links. (If you don't have a mouse, you can't "hover" it over a link without clicking just to see the simple acronym interpretation.)

SLIMC1 Secularist Liberal Intellectual Media Complex
GESGOEAEOT2 Gradually, Ever So Gradually, Over Eons And Eons Of Time
PEWAG3 Punctuated Equilibrium's Wild-Assed Guess
TTRSTF4 Them There Real Scientifical-Type Fellers
TTRSPTF5 Them There Real Smart Perfesser-Type Fellers
TTRSJTF6 Them There Real Smart Journalistical-Type Fellers
SNRTACBT7 Surely No Right Thinking Adult Could Believe Today
STNSEACPB8 Surely Today No Serious Educated Adult Could Possibly Believe
WDN9 We Don't Know
BMDFP10 Baboons, Mongrel Dogs, Filthy Pigs and ...
HBAACOTE11 Human Beings Are A Cancer On The Earth
ACLU12 Anti-Christian Litigation Union
FLORMPORIF13 Flagrant Liar, Or, Mindless Parrot, Or, Innocent Fool
MEJTML14 Marxist Ends-Justify-The-Means Liar
IEJTML15 Islamic Ends-Ends-Justify-The-Means Liar
MPAV16 Marxist Principles And Values
WBESSWG17 Wise, Benign, Elite, Super-Scientific World Governance
TRMITM18 The Reason Man's In This Mess
IYI19 Intellectual Yet Idiotic
TTRSCBTF20 Them There Real Smart Catholic Bishop Type Fellers

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Date: Sat Oct 06 09:33:43 2012
From: zuma
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of 100 decayed K-40 atoms become argon-40, and only one of every 10,000 potassium atoms is the K-40 isotope; fortunately, potassium is one of the most abundant minerals on the Earth’s surface.) The phrase, 11 of 1000 decayed K-40 atoms become argon-40, as mentioned above implies the immediate transformation from K-40 to argon-40. As there is an immediate transformation from K-40 to argon-40 despite the amount is small as 11 out of 1000 decayed K-40, the reliability of radiometric dating method is in question. This is by virtue of it is mentioned that it would take a half life (or 1.25 billion years) for K-40 to turn up to be argon-40 and yet in reality it would take an immediate effect for the transformation. Even if one would suggest that 11 out of 1000 would turn up to be argon-40 and would take 1.25 billion years to process the balance of 989 (1000-11) atoms, how could the scientists account for 11 to be immediate and the balance of 989 atoms to 1.25 billion years not proportionally?

f)Samarium-147 (Parent Isotope) to Neodymium-143 (Daughter Isotope):

The following is the extract from the 6th paragraph from the website address, http://www.chemicool.com/elements/samarium.html:

(It wasn’t until 1885 that Carl Auer von Welsbach established that ‘didymium’ was actually composed of two distinct, new elements: neodymium and praseodymium.) The above extract mentions that didymium consists of neodymium and praseodymium and yet didymium was found in Samarium. With the discovery, they conclude that Samarium could turn up to be Neodymium in 106 billion years. Their conclusion that Samarium could turn up to be Neodymium is not based on seeing the physical transformation from one to another, but the substance, Neodymium, was found in Samarium. That has caused us in doubt about the reliability of radiometric dating method.

Could Samarium be able to isolate itself in the air without influence? No, it could not since the website address, http://www.elementsales.com/re_exp/index.htm, shows the immediate chemical reaction upon Samarium when it has contacted with air. The following is the extract from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samarium:

[Samarium ( /səˈmɛəriəm/ sə-MAIR-ee-əm) is a chemical element with symbol Sm and atomic number 62. It is a moderately hard silvery metal which readily oxidizes in air. Being a typical member of the lanthanide series, samarium usually assumes the oxidation state +3. Compounds of samarium(II) are also known, most notably monoxide SmO, monochalcogenides SmS, SmSe and SmTe, as well as samarium (II) iodide. The last compound is a common reducing agent in chemical synthesis. Samarium has no significant biological role and is only slightly toxic.] The phrase, Samarium…hard silvery metal which ready oxidizes in air, as mentioned above implies the ease to respond to air in chemical reaction. The ease in chemical reaction with the contact of air would certainly affect the quality of Samarium and even the radioactive decay since it would not be solely Samarium but other elements that would form a new compound with it to increase or reduce its decay. This certainly would put radioactive dating method into question.

Could scientists be able to separate Neodymium from Samarium? The following is the extract under the sub-title, Abstract, from the website address, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0003267094002746:

(A separation scheme for strontium and light rare earth elements and its application to the isotopic analysis of strontium and neodymium in silicate rocks are presented. This method benefits from the selectivity and high capacity of two newly introduced extraction Chromatographic materials, referred to as Sr.Spec and TRU.Spec, respectively. These afford a straightforward separation of Sr and Sm + Nd with high yield, good purity and satisfactory blank levels, on very small (0.25 ml) columns using small volumes of solutions of a single mineral acid, HNO3.) The phrase, These afford a straightforward of Sr and Sm + Nd…using small volumes of… HNO3, gives the information that scientists could separate Samarium and Neodymium through mineral acid, HNO3.

Could Neodymium be able to stand alone from scientific point of view? Let’s observe the sequence of pictures of Neodymium in direct contact in air as shown in the website address, http://www.elementsales.com/re_exp/index.htm. For instance, if Samarium would turn up to be Neodymium-143 in a half life and that is 106 billion years, there would not be another half life for it since it would corrode in the air and ultimately vanish since it could not be isolated itself in the air. The computation of Samarium-Neodymium isotopes by means of radiometric dating method presumes Neodymium still retains for another half life and yet in reality, it could not. This has put the accuracy of radiometric dating method by means of Samarium-147 due to the possible corrosion of Neodymium-143 to its ultimate vanishing in the beginning of another half life. The computation of age through isotope by means of samarium has presumed that neodymium would continue for another half life once samarium has turned up to be neodymium after the initial half life. Yet in reality, neodymium would vanish instead of continuing its existence. As the reality is different from the assumption that is set up in radioactive dating method, the accuracy of the age that would have computed through this method is in question.


Date: Sat Oct 06 12:36:36 2012
From: Vic Biorseth
Comment:

Zuma:

It appears that something may be missing from the opening line of your submission.

That aside, it appears that you confirm my statement that judging the age of the oldest of the strata that make up the crust of the earth is more a matter of scientific conjecture than substantive science.

Regards,

Vic


Date:   Wed Sep 24 2014
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