Holding one’s religion as a private matter marks a person as one not prepared, for whatever reason, to articulate or defend his deepest held religious convictions. Which is not a bad thing, in and of itself. We are not all the best theologians, or the best apologists, or the best public exponents or explainers of our personally held religion. No one should be expected to be able to explain in any elaborate detail the whys and wherefores of their religion to anyone else.
However, in my not so humble opinion, when one begins to elevate himself to any sort of political or other office from which he will have the power to make and or enforce rules of behavior on others, things begin to change a bit. (We’ll save the office of teaching and educating and the topic of journalism for future discussions.) When the Legislator, or the Executive, or the Justice or Judge, publicly claims his religion as a private matter and indicates that he chooses not to discuss it, we the people should wonder why, and demand an explanation. And then listen very carefully.
There is something about his religion that cannot stand the light of day.
We have already argued, in Legislate Morality, that,
We have similarly argued, in Separation of Church and State, that there is not and never has been any such thing as the so-called “Constitutional Principle” of separation of Church and state. It remains for future sitting governments to overturn the errors done in its name.
If something other than Judeo-Christian morality is to serve as the foundation for any new law, rule, executive order or regulation, we the Judeo-Christian American people have every right to know exactly what that foreign and alien foundation is, and to know it in elaborate detail.
Most particularly anyone who aspires to or occupies the Presidency of the Unite States should be not only willing, but required to explain in elaborate detail his personal religion. There can be no valid reason for him to refuse to do it. Hiding behind the thin but politically-expedient religion as a private matter argument, for anyone anywhere near that high office, should sound alarm bells everywhere in America.
We have no legal religious litmus test for any Presidential candidate, or any other candidate. A Hindu is perfectly free to run, if he thinks he can win. But note well that none of our Founders was the least bit bashful about holding forth on religious topics, or about discussing his most deeply held religious beliefs. There can be no honorable reason for any candidate or holder of high office to be secretive or deceptive about his own religious beliefs, or about his lack of them.
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Date: Mon Apr 20 11:16:23 2009
The closing line of Article VI of the Constitution: " ... but no religious test shall ever be required as qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." Your argument violates this constitutional principle.
Date: Tue Apr 21 08:40:06 2009
From: Vic Biorseth
I humbly disagree. No religious test is required for anyone to run for any office, and I would oppose that. The only thing that I am saying is that a religious test, among others, is required to get my vote. None of our founders, and few of our high officials, historically, have had any difficulty speaking publicly about their personal religion. All of the signers of the Declaration and of the ratified Constitution were raised in Christian or Jewish traditions, and none had any concerns about hiding their personal faith from public view. In fact, it drove their lives. It gave them direction and meaning and purpose. It provided their common sense of knowing right from wrong.
I submit that few of us would vote for a man whose tradition came out of a religion that included, say, child sacrifice as one of its sacraments or traditions. And, I submit that we the voters would have a right to know the sort of thing this candidate might do or favor based on his religion, and to know it before Election Day.
Now, President Obama has said “I believe in prayer” to one of his followers who said she prayed for him. I believe it would be a good thing for us to know to what god he prays, if he prays at all. Perhaps he has found a god that favors abortion. Perhaps he has turned to one of the gods of Sodom and Gomorrah that favors sexual perversions and licentiousness. Perhaps he prays to one of the Baals to which ancient peoples once sacrificed children. Perhaps he bows to the newest recreation of Gaia, the Earth goddess, favored by the UN as a world-wide replacement for the Judeo-Christianity that the UN so despises. (If they can’t convince the world of materialist-atheism, Gaia worship and vague, general religiosity is the next best thing.)In the absence of any faith statement by President Obama, I judge him by his actions, and I find no real religion in him. I believe he is an atheist who will lie about it for purely political reasons. As a Marxist, he is and must be a MEJTML14 . He will say anything at all to magnify himself and increase his personal power.
At the personal level, I am quite proud of my Roman Catholicism, and have no difficulty at all discussing it in detail in public. I am prepared to describe it, defend it, debate it, or argue the finer points of it. If you are not just as proud of your own personal religion as I am of mine, then you might ask yourself why you continue to hold it.
Personal religion should be a primary topic candidates expound upon in public; instead, it has grown into a sort of forbidden topic, particularly (I suspect) among candidates who are in truth un-believers.
Date: Fri May 29 18:44:56 2009
From: Say what?
You have got to be kidding me. If we followed this logic, political contests would all be religion based rather than issue based. Religion has always been and should remain a side issue in politics. You should stick to your theology and leave politics alone.
Date: Sat May 30 08:08:02 2009
From: Vic Biorseth
That’s exactly the point. Religion should not be a side issue; it should be the main issue, relating to any issue under political contention.
What, exactly, is the basis for the Pro-Choice political position? Why should religion be sidelined on that issue? What is the basis for the pro-sodomy political position? Why should religion be sidelined on that issue?
Every available demographic shows that we are overwhelmingly a Judeo-Christian people, and the moral rules of the Judeo-Christian Ethos are what we guide our lives by, however imperfectly. It is also the basis for our Constitution and our civil law, which all office holders must swear or affirm to uphold.
Is our government still representative of the people and restrained by our Constitution, or not? What branch of Judaism or denomination of Christianity teaches the goodness of sodomy, and the goodness of the killing of babies on a massive scale?
Are we really pagans? Or is the very principle of representative government now dead?
Date: Wed Jul 21 19:01:56 2010
Utter nonsense, this website promotes theocracy. You say, "We Americans are religious people". Well, I'm an American, and I'm not a religious person. I think religion is for dim witted gullible fools. Should the government force religion down my throat when I don’t want it? This website says it should. Freedom of religion means also having the freedom to not have a religion.
Date: Thu Jul 22 05:57:26 2010
From: Vic Biorseth
Ho hum, heavy sigh and here we go again.
This is getting boring. First thing this morning, you were crying at the Masturbation Industry page. Then, I found you whining at the Argument Refuting Darwinism page, and now I find you blubbering and slobbering all over yourself here.
At this point, I think it’s fair to say that your statement that this Website promotes theocracy is just a flagrant categorical lie, and thus, that you are a flagrant categorical liar.
The exact opposite of what you charge is happening in America. The government is forcing atheism down the throats of all Americans, even despite the “respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” restriction on government from Amendment I of the US Constitution says about it.
Wipe the drool off your chin. I think you have been masturbating too much and all the blood has left your brain.
Date: Fri Jul 23 11:21:23 2010
Vic, your argument is not intellectually sound if you insist that religion drives law, because that is a near definition of theocracy. Where is the separation between religion and government?
Date: Sat Jul 24 06:33:53 2010
From: Vic Biorseth
I do not say that religion drives law, but that religion drives morality. Morality drives law. Morality provides the common or community sense of right versus wrong. In our case, the first few Commandments describe man’s proper relationship with God, or, our theology. The remaining Commandments – prohibiting murder, theft, adultery, covetousness, dishonesty, etc. – describe man’s proper relationship with his fellow man, or, our morality. Morality drives civil law, avoiding all topics of worship while not prohibiting or hindering in any way the first few Commandments of our most common national theology.
I have argued that morality comes out of religion and nowhere else. A common sense of morality is required for civil law to make any sense at all and not be random and incoherent. If we abandon our Judeo-Christian ethos, what would you base our representative civil law upon? Godless Marxism, which brought us death camps, legally established covetousness, massive theft, liquidation of the bourgeois, labor camps, etc., etc., etc.?
I submit that Judeo-Christian morality, properly adhered to, represents the highest form of morality the world has ever known, and it has under-girded the most free, uplifting, successful and wealthy societies in all of world history.
Ours is not a Catholic or Mormon or Methodist or Jewish, etc., government; it is, rather, a representative government of a people who are predominantly of one of the faiths such as Catholic, Mormon, Methodist, Jewish, etc. who will tend to automatically see the sense of civil law that coincides with and does not oppose God’s law.
What exactly would you replace that with?
Date: Tue Aug 03 11:33:23 2010
So you are saying that it’s the government who is violating the second amendment by restricting religion through civil law.
Date: Wed Aug 04 06:29:13 2010
From: Vic Biorseth
It’s worse than that; our government is imposing the religion of atheism upon the people in direct violation of the second Amendment. We are forced by civil law to be, pretend to be or appear to be atheist in public.
Now, atheism claims there is no god, and cannot prove there is no god, and so atheism’s belief that there is no god is based upon faith alone, and not on any other evidences. Atheism is a strictly and purely faith-based belief system. You may call that anything you want to call it, but I call it a religion. It is the official religion of the theocratic government of the USA at the moment.
Date: Sun Oct 12 2014
From: Vic Biorseth
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Pulled the trigger on the 301 MOVE IT option June 1, 2014. Working my way through all the webpages. .
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Various unrelated topics that stirred thought and provoked writing (or quoting) at one time or another. The Everything Else Bucket.
Undoing Evil: Unraveling the sly "Good Intentions" destroying the West. Undoing Evil means reversing Political Correctness and Amorality, and returning to Pure Meritocricy.
Letter to an American Warrior, from an old American Citizen, with Love. An old man's advice to a young man, sent in a letter to an American Warrior.
The Judas Complex: How a traitor may not recognized his own treason. The Judas Complex explains how Judas Iscariot - like many a modern day Bishop - compromised with the world.
Christmas 2014: Hope is Reborn; Salvation has come into the world. The Christmas 2014 Turning Point: The Kingdom is upon us; our King is among us.
A Personal Relationship with Jesus Christ deepens faith and faith commitment. A Personal Relationship with America deepens love of country and patriotic commitment.
Work at home jobs that have had me. A long, costly and unsuccessful run at work from home jobs that didn't work for us.
Truth versus Agenda addresses the simplest of problems greatly complexified. Truth versus Agenda examines the contest between reality and its opposition.
Vic has Iron Weights for sale; Mama says they have to go. Lots of iron weights for sale; all have to go at once, in one sale.
My poor old truck is again starting to look like a poor old truck. After half-a-million miles, we're now approaching another decision time; another paint job, or a new truck.
A Palin Parker Ticket? My Dream Candidates for 2012. Why a Palin Parker ticket is better than any professional politician Republican ticket you can come up with for 2012.
Elitism Vs Palinism: Why the Left and the Elites Loath and Fear Sarah Palin. It isn’t just Marxism Vs Palinism; it’s also established intellectual elitism vs Palinism. The elite need someone to look down upon.
Here we see Bush family class captured in a simple private citizen’s photo. George W. (and Mrs.) Bush quietly demonstrate Bush family class without hoopla or fanfare.
Marxists love crisis, and they love an oil spill crisis most of all. Marxists even create and drive crisis. Their favorite crisis of all must be the Oil Spill Crisis, which is even better than a Banking Crisis.
The Godless Left leads the young and naive to their utopian Hell. For an honest comparison of the effects on youth, we need to look to the history of the Godless Left versus the Religious Right.
On Threats to America's National Existence. A look at the nature of our national existence, what makes us America, physical threats to that, and the possibility of just going out of existence.
On the ethics of language: English dictionary Vs. Political-Correctness taboos. Language evolves, yet morals are (or should be) fixed. This poses questions re the ethics of language.
Thinking Catholic direction: threats to America, Church, Ethos, even History. The Thinking Catholic Direction is multi-faceted, facing threats to American National Existence, Catholic Liturgy, our common Guiding Ethos - emphasis changes to meet the threat of the moment.
The website is going on hold for at least the next five weeks. Business calls, and I must respond. Will be traveling, and not taking the laptop this time.
Current Website Status. Still too busy for individual responses to questions, comments & criticisms.
Our 2006 Ohio Voter Guide. The choices are quite clear, and the 2006 Ohio Voter Guide was easy to produce.
On carrying my Lord, Jesus Christ, in my pocket. As a Eucharistic Minister, I am on occasion carrying the Lord Jesus in my pocket. It's a wondrous thing.
A 2006 Christmas and Hanukkah wish. May the Holy Days we celebrate remind us all of who we are, and how we are different from other peoples.
Current Democratic Party platform reveals anti-Semitic streak among Liberals. In their voting, their speechifying, and in the slant of their controlled mainstream media reporting, the current Democratic Party Platform is made clear to all observers.
The "Left", and The DaVinci Code, The Passion, and Cartoons of Mohammed. You can tell a lot about a movement by its public words. The Passion? "Unreservedly Bad." The DaVinci Code? "Unreservedly Good." Anything to do with Islam? "No Comment."
Home For Christmas 2008. Website Getting Active Again
Hydrogen power could be, and should be, the wave of our automotive future. Any move toward hydrogen power is a move toward a cleaner and more efficient fuel, and away from our dangerous dependency on oil.
Kerry lies again, and then lies about his lies, in concert with the SLIMC. There he goes again! Kerry lies again and again about American servicemen and veterans; he just can't help himself.
What's going on with Mel Gibson? Is he really an anti-Semite? I am surprised that Mel Gibson is an alcolholic. But I am never surprised at any words that come out of the mouth of any drunk.
Still Worrying Over NuVo Consequences. The Holidays have gone by, several days have passed, and the SANE NuVo Initiative still stands pat.
The Dem's October Surprise involves another flip-flop of their public "standard". The clearly pro-sodomy Party that openly seeks the "Gay" vote goes Victorian for another pre-election October Surprise ploy.
Some Problems with NuVo: the so-called Null-Vote Initiative. A "philosophical" movement aimed at keeping religious conservatives from voting? Seriously? Let me state my problems with NuVo.
Come, let us sit and reason together. Jews and Christians of various stripe and spot can say to each other, 'Come, let us sit and reason together.' But we can't do that with the Moslems.
Regarding SANE works dropping NuVo: Nul Vote Initiative dies with a whimper. If you can't really present a good argument, sit down. On SANE Works dropping the NuVo Initiative: a program that works hard to SOUND pro-American while ACTING to oppose American National Existence.
Even experts grossly underestimate the Marxist zeal of the American Left. The sharp Left turn happened in the Hoover-FDR era, and the Marxism of the American Left has been deepening ever since.
Thinking American, in a nutshell: When one has lots to say, but time is limited. The older I get, the busier I get. Answering multiple questions as a thinking American, but in a hurry.
"We are an Easter People, and Hallelujah is our Song." (John Paul the Great) Our absolutely unique and singular Easter story, and the incredible force with which it struck human history.
Witnessing, grieving and weeping for our dieing culture. What might it take to call a whole people back from the brink of cultural death?
So how come we have all these homeless people if our system is so great? The strong "Utopian Idealist" firmly believes that absolute worldly perfection is actually possible. Therefore, there should never be any such thing as a hungry or homeless person.
Taking a look at Illegal Imigration and Tax Problem solutions. In our view, the minimum wage and income tax have outlived their usefulness, and only contribute to the illegal alien problem.
First journal / blog entries when the thinking catholic blog first opened up. Notes to readers about what I was doing.
On-going WebSite work and planned WebPages as of 09/07/2006. Adding items to book store.
Vic's busted finger status - life goes on. Another busted finger status report, since the original one rolled off of the 50-entry BLOG update records.
Website Status as of 02/05/2009. No more Bookstore; no more Contact Me; no more complexity.
Website Status 03-09-2009. Just a note to bring you up to date on website status 03-09-2009.
Website Status 04/06/2009. Busy driving daily now; most website work will be weekend and as available.
The Plastic Bags and Eco Doom theory: will plastic bags end life as we know it? Plastic Bag and Eco Doom predictions tell us that plastic grocery and garbage bags will still be buried in the land fills and dumps a thousand years from now. Well … so what?
Farewell Smokey Biorseth; Rest In Peace. Hello Coal Biorseth; Welcome Home. As we were laying our beloved Smokey Biorseth to rest in his grave beside the lilies, a carbon-copy of Smokey, in younger form, emerged from the lilies.
Honky Biorseth really runs this house. If you want to know what's in any cabinet in the house, just ask Honky Biorseth.
More Marxist infiltration of higher education. Public school and the media are not the only places dominated by Marxist thought; even Catholic institutions are infected.
Of Families and Fortunes, and Inheritance Vs. Redistribution. Families and Fortunes are despised by Marxists, because Marxism demonizes the family, demonizes fortunes, and even demonizes profit.
Website Status Update 11/09/10. Just a Website status update; where we are and where we’re going.
Regarding the 2010 Tax Deal Pledge Breaker: Pledge? What Pledge? How can Republican deal makers even face us? We need to hang a Tea Party target on all professional politicians for 2012.
Pray for peace in Jerusalem, and for deliverance of Israel from harm. To pray for peace in Jerusalem is to pray for deliverance from Obama.
A tale of Promised Financial Melt-Down Debt Ceiling Nonsense and Happy Marxists. Everyone, on both sides, believes the Debt Ceiling Nonsense. Why?
Our Ohio voter Guide for the 2012 Election. The 2l012 Ohio Voter Guide – The Choices Have Never Been Clearer, or more critical.
Evangelization enters the animal kingdom with the first bear prayer. It is fitting that the first bear prayer would be a prayer of thanksgiving.
Is the Internet down in Lithuania? Sudden loss of Lithanian traffic suggests the internet is down in Lithuania.
The rise of the Femi Nazi Green Beret, and the decline of military victory. The first Femi Nazi Green Beret will be awarded out of fairness, not excellence.
Food Insurance: Is this stuff really any good? All of us conspiracy-theorizing, global-calamity doomsday-preppers need their Food Insurance.
We just had to try to do Robert Irvine's Plastic Wrapped Baby Back Ribs. Put plastic wrapped baby back ribs in the oven? What? Are you nuts?
Thoughts on the first Eucharist, established by the Last Supper. The first Eucharist was recognized by the Apostles for what it was on that holiest Holy Thursday.
Tea-Party-Candidates-04-18-2014. The Constitution is not going to be restored to legal preeminence unless we replace leadership incumbents of BOTH PARTIES.
Ecce homo; Behold the man. Ecce Homo. Behold the Innocent Lamb, who takes away the sins of the world.
When your system slows down or hangs, it's time for a Total System Reboot. America, the World, and even the Catholic Church may need a Total System Reboot.
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