The Ground Zero Mosque

Why should anyone be surprised?

Vic Biorseth, Wednesday, August 11, 2010

The charges are flying, in all directions, and most of them are way off the mark. A 13-story combination Mosque and Islamic “Cultural Center” is proposed within a stone’s throw of the infamous Ground Zero, site of the dirty Islamic sneak attack on innocent American civilians in the World Trade Center Towers. And, according to some, we should all sing “praise be unto Allah” or something. Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the head of the Cordoba Institute, which is in charge of the project, insisted that the site would help "bridge the great divide" between Muslims and the rest of America. See?

It is to be dedicated on an anniversary of the 9/11/01 mass murders. Isn’t that nice?

The name “Cordoba” is significant. It refers to the old Caliphate of Cordoba in Spain, which represented perhaps the zenith of Islamic military conquest in the middle ages; it was all downhill for Islam after that. Every Islamic imam dreams of a future Islamic world caliphate, and imagines himself as the Grand Caliph. The ground zero mosque is hoped to be the beginning of the caliphate of America, first, and of the world, next.

It is important for all of us infidels to understand a little bit of what a mosque means, besides being a place of prayer, and what goes on in and around them. When a mosque is built, it is often on a special site claimed by Islam, usually taken in battle. The site then becomes a place from which Moslems will not willingly retreat; they must be driven out, as has happened often in history, since the radical decline of Islam after having conquered so much of the world.

Moslems are called to prayer five times daily, seven days a week, 365 days a year. Each of these times, the Takbir is recited, of the form Allahu Akbar, meaning, Allah is greater. It is a sort of doxology type prayer, but it is also a battle cry, and it is also a victory cry, claiming ground for Islam. It is also sometimes an expression of joy or appreciation, instead of yelling yippee, hurray or bravo at the end of some performance or other happy event.

This takbir is what they will be saying aloud at ground zero, five times a day, every day (they think) forever. Note that there are lots of other mosques in New York City, and note that they often have overflow crowds. The overflow worshipers then line up on the streets and sidewalks, blocking traffic, while they do their prayers.

Why there, of all places? To denote Islam’s greatest “victory” against America, the Great Satan.

The question is not whether Moslems can build a mosque in Manhattan; they’ve already done that, multiple times. The question revolves round whether they can build one any damned place they please. Perhaps in Arlington; perhaps on the Mall next to the Lincoln Memorial. Remember, Islam is a completely intolerant ideology. Islam tolerates no other religion; Islam tolerates no other government; Islam tolerates no other civil law. Our religious tolerance is already proved by the presence of so many mosques all over America. The religious tolerance of Islam could easily be proved by allowing a Catholic Church or a Jewish Synagogue, of comparable size and capacity, to be built an equivalent distance from the Kabbah in Mecca.

Don’t hold your breath.

And so, the charges fly, back and forth. Those of us who speak the truth openly and unabashedly are “insensitive” at the least, and xenophobic or Islam-phobic at worst, and intolerant bigots in the bargain. Maybe even right wing religious nuts. After all, the imam said he meant to build bridges, and he’s reaching out the hand of friendship to us. Right?

Those who speak more gently against the ground zero mosque suspect that the imam might be less than forthright in his statements, and might be a closet terrorist, or support terrorists, or at least not condemn “radical” Islam, whatever that is supposed to be. He has supported Hamas, an officially declared terrorist organization, he has supported the phony flotilla intended to violate Israel’s blockade, he will not be pinned down to even discuss the nature of terrorism or whether Hamas is terrorist, etc., etc., etc. He speaks in vague generalities and condemns “terror” generally, but sturdiously will not associate it with any fellow Moslems or Islamic organizations or nations.

He claims that Amerca “created” Osama Bin Ladin, and that America is an “accessory” to the “crime” of 9/11/01. Of course, that is a flagrant categorical lie, and he is a flagrant categorical liar. But why should that surprise anyone? He is, after all, a Moslem, and as a Moslem, he is and must be an IEJTML15 .

There is nothing special about this Imam. He is no different from any other Islamic imam. There is nothing he has said that is any different from what any of them have said. He is not a “radical”. Neither is Hamas, or Hezbollah, or, for that matter, the Talliban, or Al Queda. There is not one thing he has said or done that is outside the normal, everyday, completely orthodox teaching of mainstream Islam. No imam is going to openly declare Hamas to be terrorist and to condemn them for terrorism. General statements that “terrorism is bad” or “terrorism is against Islam” or “I condemn all acts of terrorism” and so forth; but no direct connection between Hamas, or any other group, and terrorism.

I have said elsewhere on this Website that there is nothing Osama Bin Ladin himself has ever said or done that is in any way against mainstream Islamic teaching or law. The closest any Moslem will come to denouncing any fatwa of his or any of his actions might be to say that “it is against Islam to kill an infidel without first giving him a warning.” But, you see, Osama Bin Ladin did give us fair warning.

Osama Bin Ladin, speaking in the name of Islam, declared war on the USA in an official Fatwa, openly published, among other places, in a London newspaper named Al Quds Al Arabi in August 1996. Nobody was paying attention. The sneak attacks of 9/11/01 were not the first actions by Islam in this officially declared subset of war, not by a long shot; but they were the most successful. They were the ones that finally got our attention. Islam itself had previously declared open war on the entire non-Islamic world at its birth.

There was nothing secret about any of this. We were too naïve and too typically tolerant of the other to believe it. But it was true. It still is true. There is no such thing as radical Islam, unless it might be an unrelated nut group like the American Black Moslems. Outside of them and any other whacko nut-jobs out there, there is no such thing as “radical” Islam. There is only Islam.

The important thing is this:

Any Moslem is, before he is anything else, an IEJTML15 . These are a people who will call out loudly “We come in peace!” even as they go about the business of systematically killing us. The claim that Islam is a religion of peace is a flagrant categorical lie. Islam is an ideology of war, conquest and dominance, masquerading as a religion. Like the false ideology of Marxism, it is a tool of use to the would-be dictator to take charge of a people. Like Marxism, it has its multitude of useful idiots who believe in it and follow it, like stupid animals.

”Converts” to Islam are generally filled with hate to begin with. Propaganda-education from Marxist teachers and preachers and race-bating “black leaders” helps to create a sense of alienation and hatred of America to begin with, and Islam provides a channel for hatred of all things Western. Women are converted to Islam most usually by trickery, by marriage to Moslems temporarily pretending to be decent gentlemen. Then, the new wives are made to submit, turn in their car keys, bag their heads and shut the hell up. Anyone who is not predisposed to anti-Western hatred, and who truly converts to this phony religion by his own free will, has got to be really, really dumb.

Now, Comrade Hillary Clinton, who is Comrade Obama’s – peace be upon him – Secretary of State, has hired Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the head of the Cordoba Institute, who is to build the mosque at ground zero, as an official American Envoy to the Middle East. He is to go, at American tax payer expense, to Islamic lands to raise funds for the building of the mosque at ground zero. He is already hailed by many of these countries as the hero who will build the monument to the successful Islamic attack on New York and America.

Comrade Obama, peace be upon him, is already spending American billions to promote and support the “religion” of Islam in foreign lands. He is building and restoring multiple mosques around the world, with our tax dollars. Isn’t that nice of him? Of course, Comrade Obama, peace be upon him, and Comrade Hillary are both Marxists, and so they are MEJTML14 s, little different from their Islamic counterparts. The truth is not in them. Virtually everything they say is a lie.

Comrade Hillary goes a little farther with her Alinskyite lies, pretending on occasion to be Christian, for instance, for the sake of American politics. Comrade Obama, peace be upon him,, also an Alinskyite, is a different case: he seems to be trying to cover all the ideological/religious bases, and he definitely has little or no interest in his own re-election. He intends to become dictator, and quickly. He will use any crisis, or invent any crisis, and feed any crisis, to contribute to what he hopes will become a perfect storm of crises, bringing about anarchy, the required stepping stone for a forcible take-over.

Economic collapse; the collapse of the American dollar into nothingness; spiraling unemployment; the closing of businesses; suspension of drilling; open warfare between ranchers and gangsters on the Mexican border; military losses due to lack of commitment, money, provisions and support; encouragement of groups like La Raza, Black Panthers, ACORN, IEU gangsters, etc. to violence; encouragement of dependency on government; terrorism un-responded to; Islam encouraged; Judeo-Christian morality demonized; the list is inexhaustible. Every stimulus / bail-out / major bill passed is aimed directly at our own national economic destruction.

The SLIMC1 , Marxist to the core, is doing its part to advance the end of America. Just about every American journalist is a MEJTML14 , in league with Comrade Obama, peace be upon him. I have known that the media was predominantly Communist ever since Castro took Cuba, with our support, and then declared himself to be a Marxist-Leninist, and our media never stopped praising him.

I noted their incredible mountain of lies all throughout the entire Vietnam War, and I never forgot. They have not changed one iota.

The SLIMC1 despises America just as much as Comrade Obama, and just as much as Comrade Hillary, although they, and Hillary, will do a little better job of pretending that they don’t. But what they love and promote – redistribution, collectivization, planned economy, etc. – is so absolutely incompatible with the American Constitution as to render them mutually exclusive. You cannot hold with one and not reject the other. All that they love came out of the Communist Manifesto. All that they hate came out of the American Constitution, and the Declaration of Independence. You cannot possibly be an avowed Marxist and love America, and the American ideal. They despise us, and our highest ideals. They despise America and they seek her destruction.

Comrade Barrack Hussein Obama, peace be upon him, leans more to Marxism than to Islam, but he will use any enemy of America to his own best advantage. When push comes to shove, if and when he is successful in attaining dictatorship over a destroyed, demoralized, destitute and burning America, he will probably come down on the side of Marxism against Islam. First, of course, he will solidify his position of power by purging his own Party, and brutally eliminating all potential contestants to his position.

Comrade Obama is very similar to Comrade Joseph Stalin, in that, whatever he might lack in intellect and cognition he more than makes up for with a paranoia-tinged political insight combined with utter ruthlessness. He might not be the sharpest tack in the box, but he has focus, determination and ruthlessness. Just like Stalin. Stalin, remember, personally signed hundreds of thousands of death warrants in his political purges, without ever complaining about writer’s cramp.

In the mean time, those who would sit around the campfire singing Kumbaya with those who plan their “conversion,” enslavement or death will go happily along their way, being nice, expecting niceness in return, fully believing that their own love of peace can and will convert Satan himself to general niceness. These are the “bring us all together” fools.

We will have to see where all this goes. We can see what the Marxist and the Islamic intention is. Neither of them have changed, except in tactic and strategy. The goal of world domination remains the same, for both of them. We can do our part to not present the opportunity for the movement into anarchy, which the Marxists want to see. Anarchy is the necessary stepping stone to the seizure of dictatorial power.

Steady as she goes. May God confirm our souls in self control.

Pray for America, remember in November, vote Republican and then impeach the bastards.


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GESGOEAEOT2 Gradually, Ever So Gradually, Over Eons And Eons Of Time
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TTRSTF4 Them There Real Scientifical Type Fellers
TTRSPTF5 Them There Real Smart Perfesser Type Fellers
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MPAV16 Marxist Principles And Values
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Date: Fri Aug 13 23:46:18 2010
From: John
Location: Montana

Vic, does not the religion clause of the first amendment grant muslims the right to build their mosque, the same as it grants others the right to build their churches?

Date: Sat Aug 14 06:16:40 2010
From: Vic Biorseth


It does not.

The Constitution does not seek to provide a response to every nuance of language; rather, it seeks reason, rational thought and logic to support the spirit and the intent of the written words. A strict interpretation of the wording would require, in this case, a dramatic violation of the spirit and intent of the religion clause of the First Amendment just to accommodate Islam.

Our religious tolerance does not require us to tolerate absolute religious intolerance in our country.

Our Constitution does not require us to tolerate absolute intolerance of our Constitution.

Our law does not require us to tolerate absolute intolerance of our law.

The principle of free choice in religion does not require adherents to encourage or allow the steady, inexorable advance of an ideology that intends to eventually, one way or another, force us all into an alien theocracy even against our will.

The advance of Islam means, exactly, submission: Submission to religion, submission to law, and submission to government, as defined by Islam and Islam alone. This means the elimination or sublimation of our Constitution, and it means the elimination of free will choices. The elimination of free will means the elimination of liberty.

Submission to Islam will not save your soul. Only your own free will choices will do that.

America should be closing mosques, and deporting Moslems.



Date: Wed Aug 18 10:21:13 2010
From: Kim

Vic, the problem is less with Islam than with the specific man pushing for this mosque. Probably better than 80% of Muslims do not want Sharia law and do not support terrorism. Imam Rauf does want Sharia law, and he does support Islamic terrorism.

What he says in Arabic is not consistent with what he says in English. In an Arabic article titled 'I Do Not Believe in Religious Dialogue'" he says, quote, "Religious dialogue as customarily understood is a set of events with discussions in large hotels that result in nothing." And further, he says "it is clear an Islamic state can be established in more than just a single form or mold. It can be established through a kingdom or a democracy. The important issue is to establish the general fundamentals of sharia that are required to govern."

His ultimate goal, in any case, is to establish an Islamic state, here, in America.


Date: Wed Aug 18 19:46:53 2010
From: Vic Biorseth


I disagree; the problem is with Islam. Ordinary, every day Islam. Probably 80% of Jews (I admittedly am guessing here) do not observe Kosher food laws. Note well that you will search long and hard among Jews to find even one who will outright condemn or talk-down Jewish Kosher food laws. Possibly 80% of Christians do not properly live the Christian life and do the things they are supposed to do as Christians. But you will search long and hard to find a believing professed Christian who will condemn Christianity or Christian doctrines.

The reverse is not true. Even if 80% of Moslems do not want Sharia law and do not support Islamic terrorism, you will search long and hard to find a believing Moslem who will condemn Sharia outright, or who will not recognize what we call terrorism as Jihad, and refuse to condemn it outright. They will talk around the issues.

The peaceful 80% of Moslems will raise up future terrorists. The seeds of war and expansion are in the Koran itself, in the Haddith and in Islamic jurisprudence.

Again, there is nothing special about Imam Rauf. His position is identical with that of every other Imam. There is no difference between his failure to denounce Hamas or any other terrorists, his position on seeking to advance an Islamic state wherever he happens to be, and any other Islamic Imam. They all seek the same things, perhaps in different ways and perhaps with differing vigor.

Islam is, and was from the beginning, an absolutely intolerant ideology of theocracy that seeks to grow itself. It is a cancer on the human psyche. Allowing Islam free reign among a population is tantamount to gathering wolves into the sheepfold.

I’m just repeating a lot of really old stuff. Look at the navigation buttons at the left of the screen, and page up or down to the group that says Islam Vs. All Other Forms of Government and work your way through the articles. There is nothing new here. Islam, like Marxism, eventually, would destroy our Constitution and our liberty.



Date: Mon Aug 23 23:19:50 2010
From: Turk

All this not true. Islam is peace. USA trained Bin Ladin and raised him up. USA killed many peoples all over world. USA kills and attacks Islam truth is opposite of you. You don't know.

Date: Tue Aug 24 06:08:47 2010
From: Vic Biorseth


Every thing I say is verifiable. Read the Koran. You are spouting propaganda that cannot stand close scrutiny.

The fact that American forces joined with Mujahadin and cooperated to defeat the Russians in Afghanistan does not mean that Bin Ladin was "made in the USA" any more than it means that the USA was "born in Afghanistan." That whole premise is so nonsensical as to be just plain stupid.

The statement that "USA killed many peoples all over world" is just a flagrant categorical lie. Show me the evidence. And don't try to connect some American political or diplomatic or embargo action with any deaths anywhere with a coincidental date or something. America does not go about murdering innocents. That is what Islam does. The evidence for that is quite clear.



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Hydrogen power could be, and should be, the wave of our automotive future. Any move toward hydrogen power is a move toward a cleaner and more efficient fuel, and away from our dangerous dependency on oil.

Kerry lies again, and then lies about his lies, in concert with the SLIMC. There he goes again! Kerry lies again and again about American servicemen and veterans; he just can't help himself.

What's going on with Mel Gibson? Is he really an anti-Semite? I am surprised that Mel Gibson is an alcolholic.  But I am never surprised at any words that come out of the mouth of any drunk.

Still Worrying Over NuVo Consequences. The Holidays have gone by, several days have passed, and the SANE  NuVo Initiative still stands pat.

The Dem's October Surprise involves another flip-flop of their public "standard". The clearly pro-sodomy Party that openly seeks the "Gay" vote goes Victorian for another pre-election October Surprise ploy.

Some Problems with NuVo: the so-called Null-Vote Initiative. A "philosophical" movement aimed at keeping religious conservatives from voting? Seriously? Let me state my problems with NuVo.

Come, let us sit and reason together. Jews and Christians of various stripe and spot can say to each other, 'Come, let us sit and reason together.' But we can't do that with the Moslems.

Regarding SANE works dropping NuVo: Nul Vote Initiative dies with a whimper. If you can't really present a good argument, sit down. On SANE Works dropping the NuVo Initiative: a program that works hard to SOUND pro-American while ACTING to oppose American National Existence.

Even experts grossly underestimate the Marxist zeal of the American Left. The sharp Left turn happened in the Hoover-FDR era, and the Marxism of the American Left has been deepening ever since.

Thinking American, in a nutshell: When one has lots to say, but time is limited. The older I get, the busier I get. Answering multiple questions as a thinking American, but in a hurry.

"We are an Easter People, and Hallelujah is our Song." (John Paul the Great) Our absolutely unique and singular Easter story, and the incredible force with which it struck human history.

Witnessing, grieving and weeping for our dieing culture.  What might it take to call a whole people back from the brink of cultural death?

So how come we have all these homeless people if our system is so great? The strong "Utopian Idealist" firmly believes that absolute worldly perfection is actually possible.  Therefore, there should never be any such thing as a hungry or homeless person.

Taking a look at Illegal Imigration and Tax Problem solutions. In our view, the minimum wage and income tax have outlived their usefulness, and only contribute to the illegal alien problem. 

First journal / blog entries when the thinking catholic blog first opened up. Notes to readers about what I was doing. 

On-going WebSite work and planned WebPages as of 09/07/2006. Adding items to book store. 

Vic's busted finger status - life goes on. Another busted finger status report, since the original one rolled off of the 50-entry BLOG update records.

Website Status as of 02/05/2009. No more Bookstore; no more Contact Me; no more complexity.

Website Status 03-09-2009. Just a note to bring you up to date on website status 03-09-2009.

Website Status 04/06/2009. Busy driving daily now; most website work will be weekend and as available.

The Plastic Bags and Eco Doom theory: will plastic bags end life as we know it? Plastic Bag and Eco Doom predictions tell us that plastic grocery and garbage bags will still be buried in the land fills and dumps a thousand years from now.  Well … so what?

Farewell Smokey Biorseth; Rest In Peace.  Hello Coal Biorseth; Welcome Home. As we were laying our beloved Smokey Biorseth to rest in his grave beside the lilies, a carbon-copy of Smokey, in younger form, emerged from the lilies.

Honky Biorseth really runs this house. If you want to know what's in any cabinet in the house, just ask Honky Biorseth.

More Marxist infiltration of higher education. Public school and the media are not the only places dominated by Marxist thought; even Catholic institutions are infected.

Of Families and Fortunes, and Inheritance Vs. Redistribution. Families and Fortunes are despised by Marxists, because Marxism demonizes the family, demonizes fortunes, and even demonizes profit.

Website Status Update 11/09/10. Just a Website status update; where we are and where we’re going.

Regarding the 2010 Tax Deal Pledge Breaker: Pledge? What Pledge? How can Republican deal makers even face us? We need to hang a Tea Party target on all professional politicians for 2012.

Pray for peace in Jerusalem, and for deliverance of Israel from harm. To pray for peace in Jerusalem is to pray for deliverance from Obama.

A tale of Promised Financial Melt-Down Debt Ceiling Nonsense and Happy Marxists. Everyone, on both sides, believes the Debt Ceiling Nonsense.  Why?

Our Ohio voter Guide for the 2012 Election. The 2l012 Ohio Voter Guide – The Choices Have Never Been Clearer, or more critical.

Evangelization enters the animal kingdom with the first bear prayer. It is fitting that the first bear prayer would be a prayer of thanksgiving.

Is the Internet down in Lithuania? Sudden loss of Lithanian traffic suggests the internet is down in Lithuania. 

The rise of the Femi Nazi Green Beret, and the decline of military victory. The first Femi Nazi Green Beret will be awarded out of fairness, not excellence.

Food Insurance: Is this stuff really any good? All of us conspiracy-theorizing, global-calamity doomsday-preppers need their Food Insurance.

We just had to try to do Robert Irvine's Plastic Wrapped Baby Back Ribs. Put plastic wrapped baby back ribs in the oven? What? Are you nuts?

Thoughts on the first Eucharist, established by the Last Supper.  The first Eucharist was recognized by the Apostles for what it was on that holiest Holy Thursday.

Tea-Party-Candidates-04-18-2014.  The Constitution is not going to be restored to legal preeminence unless we replace leadership incumbents of BOTH PARTIES.

Ecce homo; Behold the man.  Ecce Homo.  Behold the Innocent Lamb, who takes away the sins of the world.

When your system slows down or hangs, it's time for a Total System Reboot.  America, the World, and even the Catholic Church may need a Total System Reboot.

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